Begrotingscommissie Commissie begrotingscontrole. NOTULEN Vergadering van 5 mei 2015, uur BRUSSEL

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1 EUROPEES PARLEMENT Begrotingscommissie Commissie begrotingscontrole CONT_PV(2015)0505_1 NOTULEN Vergadering van 5 mei 2015, uur BRUSSEL De vergadering wordt op dinsdag 5 mei 2015 om uur geopend onder voorzitterschap van Jean Arthuis (covoorzitter) en Ingeborg Gräßle (covoorzitter). 5 mei 2015, uur 1. Aanneming van de agenda CONT_OJ v01-00 De agenda wordt aangenomen. 2. Mededelingen van de voorzitter Zie CONT News Issue 10 van 29 april 2015, als bijlage aan deze notulen gehecht. 3. Gezamenlijke hoorzitting BUDG en CONT over "Uitdagingen i.v.m. controle in het stelsel van eigen middelen van de EU" CONT/8/03230 Corapporteurs: Inés Ayala Sender (S&D) Janusz Lewandowski (PPE) PV\ doc PE v01-00 In verscheidenheid verenigd

2 Eerste panel: "Stand van zaken met de huidige financiering van de EU-begroting" - de heer Stephan Lehner, directeur DG BUDG; Tweede panel: "Belangrijkste kwesties in verband met de controle van de eigen middelen bni en btw: om wat voor uitdagingen gaat het?" - mevrouw Silke Stapel-Weber, directrice Eurostat, - de heer Milan Martin Cvikl, lid van de Europese Rekenkamer, - mevrouw Jannetje Bussink, DG TAXUD, afdelingshoofd; Derde panel: "Slotopmerkingen" - de heer Ivailo Kalfin, voormalig EP-lid, vicepremier van Bulgarije en minister van Werkgelegenheid en Sociaal Beleid, lid van de Groep op hoog niveau inzake de eigen middelen. Sprekers: Deel I - Jean Arthuis, Ingeborg Gräßle, Janusz Lewandowski, Stephan Lehner (DG BUDG, EC), Vladimír Maňka, Patricija Šulin, Petri Sarvamaa, Jens Geier, Jean-Paul Denanot, Paul Rubig, Isabelle Thomas, José Manuel Fernandes, Benedek Javor Deel II - Inés Ayala Sender, Silke Stapel-Weber (Eurostat), Ingeborg Gräßle, Milan Martin Cvikl (lid Rekenkamer), Jannetje Bussink (DG TAXUD, EC), Jens Geier, Joachim Zeller, Jean Arthuis Deel III - Ivailo Kalfin (Groep op hoog niveau inzake de eigen middelen), Jean Arthuis, Vladimír Maňka, Joachim Zeller, Janusz Lewandowski, Inés Ayala Sender 4. Rondvraag Geen opmerkingen. PE v /9 PV\ doc

3 ПРИСЪСТВЕН ЛИСТ/LISTA DE ASISTENCIA/PREZENČNÍ LISTINA/DELTAGERLISTE/ ANWESENHEITSLISTE/KOHALOLIJATE NIMEKIRI/ΚΑΤΑΣΤΑΣΗ ΠΑΡΟΝΤΩΝ/RECORD OF ATTENDANCE/ LISTE DE PRÉSENCE/POPIS NAZOČNIH/ELENCO DI PRESENZA/APMEKLĒJUMU REĢISTRS/DALYVIŲ SĄRAŠAS/ JELEÉTI ÍV/REĠISTRU TA' ATTENDENZA/PRESENTIELIJST/LISTA OBECNOŚCI/LISTA DE PRESENÇAS/ LISTĂ DE PREZENŢĂ/PREZENČNÁ LISTINA/SEZNAM NAVZOČIH/LÄSNÄOLOLISTA/DELTAGARLISTA Бюро/Mesa/Předsednictvo/Formandskabet/Vorstand/Juhatus/Προεδρείο/Bureau/Predsjedništvo/Ufficio di presidenza/prezidijs/ Biuras/Elnökség/Prezydium/Birou/Predsedníctvo/Predsedstvo/Puheenjohtajisto/Presidiet (*) BUDG: Jean Arthuis (Co-Chair), Petri Sarvamaa (1st Vice-Chair), Jens Geier (2nd Vice-Chair), Patricija Šulin (3rd Vice-Chair) CONT: Ingeborg Gräßle (Co-Chair), Derek Vaughan (1st Vice-Chair), Igor Šoltes (2nd Vice-Chair), Martina Dlabajová (3rd Vice- Chair), Dan Nica (4thVice-Chair) Членове/Diputados/Poslanci/Medlemmer/Mitglieder/Parlamendiliikmed/Μέλη/Members/Députés/Zastupnici/Deputati/Deputāti/Nariai/ Képviselõk/Membri/Leden/Posłowie/Deputados/Deputaţi/Jäsenet/Ledamöter BUDG: Reimer Böge, Lefteris Christoforou, Jean-Paul Denanot, Eider Gardiazabal Rubial, José Manuel Fernandes, Monika Hohlmeier, Benedek Jávor, Karin Kadenbach, Vladimír Maňka, Ernest Maragall, Victor Negrescu, Jan Olbrycht, Julia Pitera, Paul Rübig, Czesław Adam Siekierski, Eleftherios Synadinos, Isabelle Thomas, CONT: Nedzhmi Ali, Inés Ayala Sender, Zigmantas Balčytis,, Dennis de Jong, Bernd Kölmel, Verónica Lope Fontagné, Monica Luisa Macovei, Fulvio Martusciello, Gilles Pargneaux, Georgi Pirinski, Bart Staes, Marco Valli, Derek Vaughan, Tomáš Zdechovský, Joachim Zeller Заместници/Suplentes/Náhradníci/Stedfortrædere/Stellvertreter/Asendusliikmed/Αναπληρωτές/Substitutes/Suppléants/Zamjenici/ Supplenti/Aizstājēji/Pavaduojantysnariai/Póttagok/Sostituti/Plaatsvervangers/Zastępcy/Membros suplentes/supleanţi/náhradníci/ Namestniki/Varajäsenet/Suppleanter BUDG: Anneli Jäätteenmäki, Janusz Lewandowski 200 (2) 206 (3) 53 (6) (Точка от дневния ред/punto del orden del día/bod pořadu jednání (OJ)/Punkt på dagsordenen/tagesordnungspunkt/ Päevakorra punkt/ημερήσια Διάταξη Σημείο/Agenda item/point OJ/Točka dnevnog reda/punto all'ordine del giorno/darba kārtības punkts/darbotvarkės punktas/napirendi pont/punt Aġenda/Agendapunt/Punkt porządku dziennego/ponto OD/Punct de pe ordinea de zi/bod programu schôdze/točka UL/Esityslistan kohta/föredragningslista punkt) PV\ doc 3/9 PE v01-00

4 Наблюдатели/Observadores/Pozorovatelé/Observatører/Beobachter/Vaatlejad/Παρατηρητές/Observers/Observateurs/Promatrači/ Osservatori/Novērotāji/Stebėtojai/Megfigyelők/Osservaturi/Waarnemers/Obserwatorzy/Observadores/Observatori/Pozorovatelia/ Opazovalci/Tarkkailijat/Observatörer По покана на председателя/por invitación del presidente/na pozvání předsedy/efter indbydelse fra formanden/auf Einladung des Vorsitzenden/Esimehe kutsel/με πρόσκληση του Προέδρου/At the invitation of the Chair(wo)man/Sur l'invitation du président/ Na poziv predsjednika/su invito del presidente/pēc priekšsēdētāja uzaicinājuma/pirmininkui pakvietus/az elnök meghívására/ Fuq stedina taċ-'chairman'/op uitnodiging van de voorzitter/na zaproszenie Przewodniczącego/A convite do Presidente/La invitaţia preşedintelui/na pozvanie predsedu/na povabilo predsednika/puheenjohtajan kutsusta/på ordförandens inbjudan Съвет/Consejo/Rada/Rådet/Rat/Nõukogu/Συμβούλιο/Council/Conseil/Vijeće/Consiglio/Padome/Taryba/Tanács/Kunsill/Raad/ Conselho/Consiliu/Svet/Neuvosto/Rådet (*) Комисия/Comisión/Komise/Kommissionen/Kommission/Euroopa Komisjon/Επιτροπή/Commission/Komisija/Commissione/Bizottság/ Kummissjoni/Commissie/Komisja/Comissão/Comisie/Komisia/Komissio/Kommissionen (*) Mr Stephan Lehner, Director DG BUDG; Ms Jannetje Bussink, DG TAXUD Head of sector Други институции/otras instituciones/ostatní orgány a instituce/andre institutioner/andere Organe/Muud institutsioonid/ Άλλα θεσμικά όργανα/other institutions/autres institutions/druge institucije/altre istituzioni/citas iestādes/kitos institucijos/ Más intézmények/istituzzjonijiet oħra/andere instellingen/inne instytucje/outras Instituições/Alte instituţii/iné inštitúcie/muut toimielimet/andra institutioner/organ ECA: Mr Milan Martin Cvikl, Member of the European Court of Auditors Eurostat: Ms Silke Stapel-Weber, Director Други участници/otros participantes/ostatní účastníci/endvidere deltog/andere Teilnehmer/Muud osalejad/επίσης Παρόντες/Other participants/autres participants/drugi sudionici/altri partecipanti/citi klātesošie/kiti dalyviai/más résztvevők/parteċipanti ohra/andere aanwezigen/inni uczestnicy/outros participantes/alţi participanţi/iní účastníci/drugi udeleženci/muut osallistujat/övriga deltagare Mr Ivailo Kalfin, former Member of the European Parliament, Deputy Prime-Minister of Bulgaria and Minister of Labour and Social Policy, Member of the High Level Group on Own Resources PE v /9 PV\ doc

5 Секретариат на политическите групи/secretaría de los Grupos políticos/sekretariát politických skupin/gruppernes sekretariat/ Sekretariat der Fraktionen/Fraktsioonide sekretariaat/γραμματεία των Πολιτικών Ομάδων/Secretariats of political groups/secrétariat des groupes politiques/tajništva klubova zastupnika/segreteria gruppi politici/politisko grupu sekretariāts/frakcijų sekretoriai/ Képviselőcsoportok titkársága/segretarjat gruppi politiċi/fractiesecretariaten/sekretariat Grup Politycznych/Secr. dos grupos políticos/secretariate grupuri politice/sekretariát politických skupín/sekretariat političnih skupin/poliittisten ryhmien sihteeristöt/ Gruppernas sekretariat PPE S&D ALDE ECR Verts/ALE GUE/NGL EFDD NI Balázs Széchy, Jonas Kraft, Anna Owczarczak Maddalena Cremascoli, Codruta-Liliana Filip, Stefanie Ricken Dominykas Mordas, Jill Sevenants Peter O Broin, Kamila Wrzesinska, Juan Manuel Ghersinich Roccu Garoby, Robert Godina Maj Aslett-Rydbjerg, Carmen Hilario, Sophie Rauszer, Daniel Albarracin Maria Barbara Gatto, Pierre Vaugier, Ambra Minnei Joshua Duroch Emiel Van Dijk Кабинет на председателя/gabinete del Presidente/Kancelář předsedy/formandens Kabinet/Kabinett des Präsidenten/Presidendi kantselei/γραφείο Προέδρου/President's Office/Cabinet du Président/Ured predsjednika/gabinetto del Presidente/Priekšsēdētāja kabinets/pirmininko kabinetas/elnöki hivatal/kabinett tal-president/kabinet van de Voorzitter/Gabinet Przewodniczącego/Gabinete do Presidente/Cabinet Preşedinte/Kancelária predsedu/urad predsednika/puhemiehen kabinetti/talmannens kansli Paulina Boveington -Fauran Кабинет на генералния секретар/gabinete del Secretario General/Kancelář generálního tajemníka/generalsekretærens Kabinet/ Kabinett des Generalsekretärs/Peasekretäri büroo/γραφείο Γενικού Γραμματέα/Secretary-General's Office/Cabinet du Secrétaire général/ured glavnog tajnika/gabinetto del Segretario generale/ģenerālsekretāra kabinets/generalinio sekretoriaus kabinetas/ Főtitkári hivatal/kabinett tas-segretarju Ġenerali/Kabinet van de secretaris-generaal/gabinet Sekretarza Generalnego/Gabinete do Secretário-Geral/Cabinet Secretar General/Kancelária generálneho tajomníka/urad generalnega sekretarja/pääsihteerin kabinetti/ Generalsekreterarens kansli Генерална дирекция/dirección General/Generální ředitelství/generaldirektorat/generaldirektion/peadirektoraat/γενική Διεύθυνση/ Directorate-General/Direction générale/glavna uprava/direzione generale/ģenerāldirektorāts/generalinis direktoratas/főigazgatóság/ Direttorat Ġenerali/Directoraten-generaal/Dyrekcja Generalna/Direcção-Geral/Direcţii Generale/Generálne riaditeľstvo/generalni direktorat/pääosasto/generaldirektorat DG PRES DG IPOL DG EXPO DG EPRS DG COMM DG PERS DG IO DG TRAD DG INTE DG FINS DG ITEC DG SAFE Anne Vitrey, Niels Fischer Eszter Balàzs PV\ doc 5/9 PE v01-00

6 Правна служба/servicio Jurídico/Právní služba/juridisk Tjeneste/Juristischer Dienst/Õigusteenistus/Νομική Υπηρεσία/Legal Service/ Service juridique/pravna služba/servizio giuridico/juridiskais dienests/teisės tarnyba/jogi szolgálat/servizz legali/juridische Dienst/ Wydział prawny/serviço Jurídico/Serviciu Juridic/Právny servis/oikeudellinen yksikkö/rättstjänsten Ulrich Rosslein Секретариат на комисията/secretaría de la comisión/sekretariát výboru/udvalgssekretariatet/ausschusssekretariat/komisjoni sekretariaat/γραμματεία επιτροπής/committee secretariat/secrétariat de la commission/tajništvo odbora/segreteria della commissione/ Komitejas sekretariāts/komiteto sekretoriatas/a bizottság titkársága/segretarjat tal-kumitat/commissiesecretariaat/sekretariat komisji/ Secretariado da comissão/secretariat comisie/sekretariat odbora/valiokunnan sihteeristö/utskottssekretariatet Carmen Castillo del Carpio, Mauro De Oliveira, Christian Ehlers, Philippe Godts, Tereza Pinto de Rezende, Olivier Sautière, Hrvoje Svetic, Michal Czaplicki, Fabia Jones, Holger Benzing Сътрудник/Asistente/Asistent/Assistent/Assistenz/Βοηθός/Assistant/Assistente/Palīgs/Padėjėjas/Asszisztens/Asystent/Pomočnik/ Avustaja/Assistenter Cinti Torrens Bermo * (P) = Председател/Presidente/Předseda/Formand/Vorsitzender/Esimees/Πρόεδρος/Chair(wo)man/Président/Predsjednik/Priekšsēdētājs/ Pirmininkas/Elnök/'Chairman'/Voorzitter/Przewodniczący/Preşedinte/Predseda/Predsednik/Puheenjohtaja/Ordförande (VP) = Заместник-председател/Vicepresidente/Místopředseda/Næstformand/Stellvertretender Vorsitzender/Aseesimees/Αντιπρόεδρος/ Vice-Chair(wo)man/Potpredsjednik/Vice-Président/Potpredsjednik/Priekšsēdētāja vietnieks/pirmininko pavaduotojas/alelnök/ Viċi 'Chairman'/Ondervoorzitter/Wiceprzewodniczący/Vice-Presidente/Vicepreşedinte/Podpredseda/Podpredsednik/ Varapuheenjohtaja/Vice ordförande (M) = Член/Miembro/Člen/Medlem./Mitglied/Parlamendiliige/Μέλος/Member/Membre/Član/Membro/Deputāts/Narys/Képviselő/ Membru/Lid/Członek/Membro/Membru/Člen/Poslanec/Jäsen/Ledamot (F) = Длъжностно лице/funcionario/úředník/tjenestemand/beamter/ametnik/υπάλληλος/official/fonctionnaire/dužnosnik/ Funzionario/Ierēdnis/Pareigūnas/Tisztviselő/Uffiċjal/Ambtenaar/Urzędnik/Funcionário/Funcţionar/Úradník/Uradnik/Virkamies/ Tjänsteman PE v /9 PV\ doc

7 JOINT HEARING TUESDAY 5 MAY joint hearing Paul-Henri Spaak 3C AGENDA Follow CONT meeting on the web CONT committee website Direct access to meeting documents The draft agenda (in EN) was ed to Members on 28 April 2015 and is in the file for this meeting. 2. CHAIR S ANNOUNCEMENTS The Chairman draws attention to the following points: LANGUAGES AVAILABLE BG, CS, DA, DE, EN, ES, ET, FI, FR, HU, IT, LV, LT,, PL, PT, RO, SK, SL WEBSTREAMING emeeting The CONT meeting is webstreamed on the Europarl web-site. Please be aware that each time a speaker activates the microphone to make an intervention, the camera will be automatically directed to the speaker. TUESDAY 5 MAY Joint hearing PV\ doc 7/9 PE v01-00

8 Co-Rapporteurs: Inés Ayala Sender (S&D) Janusz Lewandowski (PPE) 3. JOINT HEARING OF CONT AND BUDG ON "CONTROL CHALLENGES IN THE EU'S OWN RESOURCES SYSTEM" Administrator: Olivier Sautiere (CONT) Holger Benzing (BUDG) Inés Ayala Sender(S&D) Co-Rapporteur Janusz Lewandowski (PPE) Co-Rapporteurs The purpose of this joint hearing, organized at the request of CONT and BUDG committees, is to allow a thorough discussion at the European Parliament level on key-issues related to the control aspects of the GNI and VAT own resources, to take stock of the current financing of the EU budget as well as to provide for an outlook on the work of the High level Group on Own resources. Furthermore, in the light of Article 325 TFEU stipulating that the Commission and Member States have to protect the financial interests of the EU, this joint hearing should highlight both good practices, areas of weakness and specific risk factors still to be addressed bearing in mind that focus should be maintained on what can still be learned and carried out in the domain of revenue in particular on GNI, VAT and budget losses due to the underground economy. The joint hearing will start with the opening remarks by the Co- Chairs Ms Gräßle and Mr Arthuis, followed by an introduction by the Co-Rapporteurs Ms Ayala Sender and Mr Lewandowski. Five participants are invited to present their views on these issues in the following three panels: First panel: 'State of Play of the current financing of the EU budget' - Mr Stephan Lehner, Director DG BUDG; Second panel: 'Key-issues related to the control of the GNI and VAT own resources - what kind of challenges?' - Ms Silke Stapel-Weber, Director Eurostat, - Mr Milan Martin Cvikl, Member of the European Court of Auditors, - Ms Jannetje Bussink, DG TAXUD Head of sector; PE v /9 PV\ doc

9 Third panel: 'Conclusive remarks' - Mr Ivailo Kalfin, former Member of the European Parliament, Deputy Prime-Minister of Bulgaria and Minister of Labour and Social Policy, Member of the High Level Group on Own Resources. The closing remarks will be made by the Co-Rapporteurs. Please find attached the draft programme. PV\ doc 9/9 PE v01-00